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Some Think the 2010 US Senate Race is a Fight for Kentucky's Values

by: Shack

Tue Apr 14, 2009 at 17:41:56 PM EDT


Daniel Mongiardo's message is simple to understand. His message reminds Kentuckians that we have a fight on our hands in this Democratic primary. A fight for values. For the first time in a long time Kentucky Democrats will be faced with a tough choice; not the tough choice of picking a candidate, a choice between urban and rural values....

Shack :: Some Think the 2010 US Senate Race is a Fight for Kentucky's Values

Mongiardo has a history of not following the crowd, he stood beside Obama when he knew damn well he would be burned for it in rural Kentucky.  Another case in point; he supported a ban on gay marriage and he knew damn well the Liberal faction of the Democratic party would hate him for it. He followed his beliefs and stood firm. Also, he refused to sign the now infamous EPA letter while Attorney General Jack Conway signed it. That one act guarantees Conway will receive little to no support in the coal fields. Kentuckians overwhelmingly voted to ban gay marriage. Conway on the other hand said that SB245 was discriminatory. So that tells me he would have voted against it, even though 75% of voting Kentuckians voted for it. Some might say that is a sign of integrity and yet others might say he is pandering to the Liberal/Urban faction of the Democratic party. 

I am not saying folks from the city have no values, I am saying that we (rural Democrats) have a different idea of what values are. We are Moderate to Conservative Democrats. Folks might say that a Conservative Democrat is oxymoron. Those same folks probably never met a rural Kentucky Democrat. As this primary progresses the values debate will heat up.

Everyone knows by now that Conway went to Duke and it appeared he was a little upset that some are talking about it. Most Kentuckians will probably ask themselves "why did he go to Duke, wasn't UK good enough for him?!?". And they have the right to ask that question. In the coal fields DUKE is a very dirty word, hence the song "which side are you on". Conway may not like it but it is a big issue.

This will be a race of Louisville versus the rest of Kentucky and some might say that is not fair. In my opinion Yarmuth could not win a race for dog catcher outside of Louisville. Chandler on the other hand has a very conservative voting record but parades as a super Liberal. Yarmuth is NOT a friend of coal and in fact he is coal's biggest enemy. Conway's family has contributed $69,000 to Yarmuths campaigns over the years so by default Conway can be considered an enemy to coal.
I am speaking as a coal miners son, a rural Democrat and I think I can speak for the majority of Kentucky's rural Democrats. It will be a very interesting race. Will Kentucky's values shift more toward the left? Or will this race galvanize Moderate and Conservative Democrats in support of Mongiardo? Only time will tell.
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Great post!! (4.00 / 1)
Shack. Welcome aboard. Mongiardo indeed made a lot of people very mad with SB 245. While I did not personally agree with the bill itself I agree that most Kentuckians did. I do not agree with Mongiardo on everything, but overall I think he is a good man and a fine candidate. I believe on two of the issues we need more votes on in the Senate he will be strong; on worker's rights and healthcare.

I agree too that Conway will do better within the urban triangle and that Mongiardo will do better without. I think very highly of Yarmuth, but I doubt he could win my seat over here in the First.

As far as the Conway Duke thing, that does not really bother me. Duke is a very prestigous school and it wasn't necessarily a jab at UK to go there.

I admire both of our Senate candidates. I think they both have strengths and weaknesses, but are both good men and would do a hell of a job. I want to stay neutral to report impartially on this site for both sides, but I welcome any member who wants to respectfully lay out their case for either one.

Hopefully some Conway folks will come aboard and make their case too!!

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Many believe this is the grand showdown between ordinary Kentuckians and the Urban elite. Folks from Louisville certainly hate that point of view because it is a dangerous thing for them. If this point of view takes hold it could be a recipe for disaster for Conway. I don't have a thing against Conway, I have only talked to the man once. But our shattered party has already taken sides, Conway vs Mongirdo. Many, like myself, believe Mongiardo had the right of first call. So some Mongairdo supporters are taking this personally.

Moniardo is straight forward and he will not waiver on an issue that touches his soul. He is what Native Americans call a Pure Heart and we have sort of adopted him as one of our own. Conway has no record so we have to look at his political associations for the substance we need. I am not going to argue for or against gay marriage, I don't judge anyone, that's not my job. All I have is the data and that one issue could be the issue that decides this race. Both have their faults, their human. But many believe this is our Democratic Armageddon. The main stream Democratic Party is not the party of the early Clinton years. It has changed, dramatically. I think we my see a third party ascend in a few years in Kentucky.  


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Your (4.00 / 1)
rural perspective is right on. It's going to be a very long and could be a very divisive primary. I hope the Kentucky Democratic party doesn't get so involved with this race they forget the 1st congressional district.

Mark Twain: "When the end of the world comes, I want to be in Kentucky because it's always twenty years behind the times."

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the party will suffer straight into the 2011 gubernatorial election because of this. And if things are still all to hell, we may be calling Grayson Mr. Governor.  

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